No tax angle here, just a warning about a businesses that spams Twitter, LinkedIn and Instagram users, and engages in deceptive advertising practices that may be illegal in the UK, EU and US. UPDATED as of 7 January 2024.1The original title of this post said Mogul Press “appears to be a scam”. I have now replaced that tentative conclusion.
In November 2023, I received a Twitter direct message:
I sent a polite response that we’re a non-profit and have a PR budget of £0.
Over the next few weeks I received three more identical messages:
That was weird enough to pique my interest. I particularly liked the claim from an outfit without a Wikipedia page that they can get you a Wikipedia page.
I asked PR/media contacts – nobody had heard of Mogul Press.
The Mogul Press website (I won’t link) didn’t inspire confidence:
The case studies are all a bit odd – Mogul adds a reassuring caveat that they’re “derived from actual clients”:
So I asked the helpful Mogul people if this was a scam, and received three identical responses assuring me that it wasn’t:
Being the suspicious type, I then ran some reverse-image searches on the profile photos. They’ve been stolen from stock image libraries and from real peoples’ Twitter and LinkedIn profiles:
I asked Agatha, Ana, Verna and Polly about this, and didn’t receive a reply.
I’m guessing their names are fake too – they don’t show up as Mogul employees on LinkedIn. There are some Mogul employees on LinkedIn but, inevitably, the first two I checked also have fake profile photos:
At which point I called it a day.
If I’d done some research first, I would have found that lots of other people on Twitter, LinkedIn and Instagram have received similar messages. Some subsequently received threats of dire consequences for being mean about Mogul (the force of such threats being slightly blunted by coming from gmail accounts).
I gave Mogul the opportunity to respond. They sent me a strange answer which fails to explain why all their employees have fake profiles, and offers the odd defence that the fake pictures “can be found on Google”. They assured me the photos would be taken down – they haven’t been.
Needless to say, normal people working for normal businesses don’t use stolen profile photos, or send threats from gmail accounts. My assumption was that Mogul Press was some kind of scam, and I thought it would be helpful to put a page up to assist anyone else who runs across them.
January 2024 update
On 26 December 2023 I received an email from the CEO of Mogul Press, Nabeel Ahmad, asking me to take down this article, and then eventually threatening me with UK libel proceedings if I don’t.
He said he would tell his team to stop using pictures of real people, and only fake AI generated images (which is apparently “common practice”. He said “You have my word that I will be strictly enforcing this going forward.”
So I was amused to see that, on that day, the first LinkedIn profile I found of a Mogul Press employee:
stole a photo from this very real UK tax adviser:
The rest of the correspondence isn’t very interesting, but I’ve uploaded a copy here. In short, Ahmad:
- Admits that his employees use fake names and fake photos on social media, with some photos AI generated, some stolen from real people. He can’t explain why this continued after I called them on this in November. He says they won’t steal photos again, but it’s clear they will continue to use fake names and AI generated photos. He thinks that is fine and “common practice”.
- Admits to spamming users on Twitter, LinkedIn and Instagram. He says this practice “can be breaking laws of specific regions” which is correct, if “can” means “is definitely” and “specific regions” means the US, EU and UK.
- Admits to renting fake LinkedIn profiles with fake names for “mass outreach”, including from a business called Akountify (which has also been criticised for their business practice). He says this is “common practice”. Akountify, in the comments below, claim that they told Mogul Press to stop using fake profile photos, and sacked them as a client when they kept doing it.
- Admits that all of this breaks the terms of service of LinkedIn etc, but says that’s between him and LinkedIn. The use of fake sender names in marketing messages is specifically outlawed in the US, EU and UK.
- Didn’t respond when I asked if his business was really a PR business, or a mostly automated business which spams people to get clients, and then charges them to place paid advertorials in poor quality media.
- Didn’t respond when I suggested this was a very different proposition from the story told on their website and in their marketing messages.
Ahmad is adamant that his business is genuine and not a scam, and claims that this article is costing him $450k in lost revenue per month. He says I have “no real proof” Mogul is a scam, and that “just because you think we are one does not give you the right to publicly declare us as a scam, and damage our business this way.”
I’m afraid Ahmad is wrong. It’s my opinion that spamming2This is the first TikTok link on the Tax Policy Associates website people with deceptive marketing, allowing your staff to steal photos from real people, and pretending to be one kind of business when you’re actually something different, is somewhere between “deeply shady” and “scam”. That is legally protected speech in the UK and the US. And it’s an opinion that seems fairly widely held.
Suing me for libel would be entertaining for everyone involved, but I’ve suggested to Ahmad that he may wish to obtain legal advice on some other points first:
- I’m not a US-qualified lawyer, but I spoke to a couple this morning who suggested that marketing cross-border using fake identities may amount to “obtaining money or property by means of false or fraudulent pretenses, representations, or promises”, and therefore constitute the Federal crime of “mail fraud“.
- I’m also not an EU/UK privacy law specialist, so I asked one what the EU/UK GDPR consequences would be for a business stealing profile photos of multiple individuals and using those photos in fake profiles for approaching potential customers. The answer was “hilariously bad”.
I’ve told Ahmad I’ll be happy to change my mind if he stops spamming people, stops using fake profiles, and starts accurately describing his business in his marketing. I’m optimistic I’ll hear back from him on this soon.
Another January 2024 update
Mogul have revamped their website, and it now gives the game away that this isn’t PR at all – it’s paid placements in low media outlets:
That is not at all what their direct marketing says.
Mogul’s response to this article wasn’t to contest any of its factual content, but to file a DCMA takedown request on the basis that the article breaches their copyright. Given that “fair use” for the purposes of criticism is protected by US copyright law, this was clearly in bad faith. We’ve filed a “counter-notice“; in principle I could claim damages against them.
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1The original title of this post said Mogul Press “appears to be a scam”. I have now replaced that tentative conclusion.
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2This is the first TikTok link on the Tax Policy Associates website
11 responses to “Mogul Press: a “PR firm” that is either a deeply shady business or a scam.”
Former Mogul Press employee here – I’m so glad someone is FINALLY doing something about this!
For privacy reasons, I won’t disclose my name as we can already see how Nabeel likes to threaten people with legal action – but I spent a while working at the company and came in when it was in the early stages. I was able to see it grow into what it is now, and from the start there have been deceptive business practices.
For one – the adverts they’d put out would promise to get people featured on Forbes magazine, and then later started offering TIME and Inc magazine. Whenever we’d ask Nabeel if we’d ever actually featured a client on these magazines – he’d always dodge the question and talk about how people would be featured on “Forbes Australia” or the like, and that we couldn’t guarantee certain publications would be available.
The fact that the adverts literally say “we will feature you on Forbes, Inc, and TIME magazine 100% guaranteed or we’ll refund you”, and Nabeel tells us we can’t guarantee this just doesn’t add up.
To date, I’ve still NEVER seen a single client get featured on any of these publications. Definitely not the USA version.
In addition to that, most of the sales team would REGULARLY hear their clients complaining about the sub-par quality of articles, how they sound like they were written by AI, half of the articles that were published weren’t even in the agreed upon publications that had been listed in the written contract, and the “writing” team would literally copy paste articles across publications and change a few words at the beginning to make it look slightly different.
Not only is this unprofessional, but these articles would end up getting flagged for plagiarism and actually hurt the reputation of the client rather than boosting it. I can’t tell you how many angry emails I would see in the CRM from clients 3 months after they’d paid us. Definitely not a confidence booster. Clients would also NOT be given a refund in the event that the company messed up. Despite a written contract outlining a clear refund policy if the exact publications were not delivered, the company would proceed to deliver sub-par PR in different placements (a violation of the contract) and then proceed to not refund the client. Before I left the company, I noticed several email threads in the CRM from clients threatening to sue the company, and notes listed on the leads saying “IGNORE – DO NOT CONTACT”. There were also several threads where Nabeel threatened to publish negative press articles about certain smaller clients that had posted negative reviews about us online and email those negative press articles to everyone in their network. This is how he blackmailed everyone into deleting their negative reviews from the internet. Funny how a PR firm starts resorting to Mafia tactics just to keep their own reputation somewhat clean…
We ended up finding out later that the entire “writing team” is actually based in Pakistan. There are no American writers on payroll – instead it’s Pakistani VA’s using these alias names to appear credible to clients that pay 5-6 figures for PR. We also found out that Nabeel owns several of the publications he would be featuring clients on, and passing them off as “high ranking mid-tier publications” – when in reality they’re ghost sites with essentially 0 active users that he’d just publish articles on to say “look we got you published”.
In my personal opinion, Nabeel believes that if a client is unhappy – he could just take the position of “we don’t own Forbes, we cannot control what they do. We’ll feature you on mid-tier publications first, and then use that to make a case to Forbes that you deserve to be featured”. It’s not illegal to suck – it’s only illegal to blatantly lie. I guess this way it just makes him look like an amateur instead of a liar. But I’m not a legal expert.
Nabeel also has given 0 consideration towards the client experience, or even the culture of the company. It really feels like his only focus is to take as much money from people with as little effort as possible. We had several different managers come in and out of the company – they’d always come in with great experience and ideas about how to make the company better, but they’d all leave after a few months due to disagreements with Nabeel. I think it’s safe to say that they saw all this with their own eyes, and left afterwards. Either because it wasn’t worth their time to fix it, or because Nabeel was too narcissistic to let them.
He liked to keep a company culture of everyone beneath him being an easily replaceable slave who should be happy and grateful for the opportunity to work in “the #1 fastest growing PR firm in the world” (as quoted by his paid sponsorship for Mogul Press on IBT Singapore) – yet only 1 person in the company was even making 10k/mo (the top sales rep). He expected everyone to devote their life to the company, yet nobody had a base salary, benefits, or even acknowledgements for a job well done.
Personally I think Nabeel is an extremely insecure person who thinks he’s better than everyone else because he has a bit of money and a couple articles online talking about how “great” he is (that he paid for). He had no interest in actually helping other people win and grow. Any real client that came in the door was disappointed with the service (to put it politely).
I highly recommend anyone looking to get PR work done check out Otter PR. They’re actually good at what they do and aren’t a scam. Feel free to spread this around!
Re the mail fraud law, I’m not a lawyer at all, but I know there’s a related wire fraud law that has been applied to internet scammers. (Mail fraud is 18 USC 1341 and wire fraud is 18 USC 1343.)
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1343
Thank you for this article. I just received a direct email from them (not the first time) and thought to do some due diligence on them. Your article saved me the trouble of going any further. Thank you!
Hi! The guys from Akountify here!
Just wanted to add more details to this really detailed narrative circling Mogul Press.
For one, what they said about our profiles is absolutely false. We do not use fake accounts nor fake pictures, at all. It is essentially our differentiating factor from every account provider that deals with fake identities, stock pictures, or AI generated ones. All incredibly sketchy.
So much so, that we also STRICTLY state that changing the pictures is against our terms. This is both on our website, our terms, also explained in demo calls before clients sign up, and even on the Slack channels we open for support right after they do.
Now, about said Slack channel. We had one with Mogul Press. In fact, still do. I have extracted at least 35 instances where we specifically told their team (Sidra, Indra, Nabeel Ahmad, Heena Khalid, Abu Bakr, Haider Ali, Iffa Anwar, and a few others) NOT to change the profile pictures for fake ones and even OBLIGED them to delete or change back the ones they changed. (all of them)
This happened in June, 2023 and led to a huge argument that even had us drop them as clients for not following our terms. 2 or 3 weeks after, Nabeel messaged me on Whatsapp letting me know they would be following our terms and best practices, and asking if we could provide more accounts. We took his word again and signed him up. Nothing changed.
Now about us: Akountify is a marketplace that connects freelancers, appointment setters, and lead gen specialists with resources they don’t use (like their own accounts, for instances) with B2B companies already looking to scale their LinkedIn outreach campaigns. Rather than paying full-time salaries for an SDR to prospect on LinkedIn (as companies normally do), you pay a fraction and can get an army of them. But again, you’re hiring the freelancer and his account, not stealing it. We have contracts with every account-renter, and they are ALL in our payroll.
Would love to send over some juicy snippets proving every little detail I mentioned here. We have it all in a Google Drive document extracted from their Slack chat.
It’s these types of posts that make me cringe. It’s disheartening to see someone be able to bash a company they know nothing about. So, you are saying that you’re not even a client? People like you who defame companies should be held liable for any damages to the company. I know people who’ve used this company and have had amazing results. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Thank you, Mr Very Genuine Commentator. Is anything I’ve written factually incorrect?
Lol 😂
Which VA wrote this?
Thanks for sharing this—My first step when they contacted me using two separate DMs on X, had me doing due diligence. I searched “Mogul PR Scam” on DuckDuckGo and you came up in the top three, but clearly looked like the most erudite analysis. I was NOT disappointed by the content and the time you saved me. It takes good people like you to make the Web a safer place. Happy New Year🎊 and thanks again.
Warm regards,
Russ Grayson
thank you!
Hi
So I also wanted to check this “company”. but the other way around being a pr specialist contacting business owners and making 10k a month probably scammingpeople. Your article save me a headache 🙏🏼
Thanks for putting up this comprehensive article! I just received a similar message and went to google them. Your article appears on the first page. You saved me some time and a headache today. Appreciate you 🙂